Sunday, May 17, 2009

Zhao Ziyang's Taped Comments on the June Fourth Movement Being Released

赵紫阳录音结集出书

A secret recording of Zhao Ziyang, the former Premier of the People's Republic of China (1980-1987) and fromer General Secretary of the Chinese Communist Party (1987-1989), that was taped around 1992 during his house arrest was released recently. See the article here: http://www.rfa.org/mandarin/yataibaodao/zhaoziyang-05142009121836.html and listen to the recording using the YouTube link below.

The recording includes his views and comments on the June Fourth Movement, reform and China's future.

In an interview byRadio Free Asia, Bao Tong (鲍彤), a former member of the Central Committee of the Chinese Communist Party, indicated that he plans to publish the English edition of the transcript first before issuing the Chinese edition. He explained that if the Chinese edition is published first, it will be immediately censored. If the English edition is published first and received international recognition that the contents are factually accurate, then it will not be possible for the Chinese edition to be censored.

Transcript of part of the recording, copied from: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7__pLe39rsg&annotation_id=annotation_320753&feature=iv:

6月3日夜,我正同家人在院子裡乘涼,聽到街上有密集的槍聲。一場舉世震驚的悲劇終于 未能避免地發生了。六四悲劇三年後,我記下了這些材料,這場悲劇已經過去好多年了。這場風波的積極分子, 除少數人逃出國外,大部分人被抓,被判,被反覆審問。情況現在應當是非常清楚了,應該 說以下三個問題可以回答了:第一,當時說學潮是一場有領導,有計劃,有預謀的反黨反社會主義的政治鬥爭。現在可以 問一下,究竟是什麼人在領導?如何計劃,如何預謀的?有哪些材料能夠說明這一點?還說 黨內有黑手,黑手是誰呀?第二,說這場動亂的目的是要顛覆共和國,推翻共產黨,這方面又有什麼材料?我當時就說 過,多數人是要我們改正錯誤,而不是要根本上推翻我們的制度。這麼多年過去了,審訊中 得到什麼材料?究竟是我說得對還是他們說得對?許多外出的民運分子都說,他們在六四前 ,還是希望黨往好處改變。 六四以後,黨使他們完全絕望,使他們和黨處在對立的方面。在學潮期間,學生提出過很多 口號,要求,但就是沒有提物價問題,而當時物價問題是社會上很大的熱點,是很容易引起 共鳴的。學生們要和共產黨作對,這麼敏感的問題他們為什麼不利用呢?提這樣的問題不是 更能動員群眾嗎?學生不提物價問題,可見學生們知道物價問題涉及改革,如果直接提出物 價問題動員群眾,實際上要反對,否定改革。可見不是這種情況。第三,將六四定性為反革命暴亂,能不能站得住腳?學生一直是守秩序的,不少材料說明, 在解放軍遭到圍攻時,許多地方反而是學生來保護解放軍。大量市民阻攔解放軍進城,究竟 是為了什麼?是要推翻共和國嗎?當然,那麼多人的行動,總有極少數人混在人群裡面攻打 解放軍,但那是一種混亂情況。北京市不少流氓,流竄犯乘機鬧事,那是完全可能的。難道 能把這些行為說成是廣大市民,學生的行為嗎?這個問題到現在應當很清楚了。

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